NORTH ATLANTIC CROKINOLE ORGANIZATION
Disclaimer: It is not the intention of NACO to replace nor compete with the NCA’s efforts to expand the game. This organization will operate in parallel and alongside the NCA while providing an alternate scoring model in contrast to the NCA’s.
As the NACO system goes through its first trial season, different methods have been suggested for allocating doubles points.
Iterations “A” and “B” show the results of applying two such methods. Another suggustion is to seperate singles and doubles standings entirely.
NACO tier list for all (Tier I) NCA participants from 6/22 onward.
coming soon
NACO points allocation broked down by tournament.
Iteration “A” first allocates points to each TEAM. 10% goes to the winning team, 7% to the runners up, and 5% to the 3rd place and so on as it would in singles. Those points are then divided and awarded equally among teammates. In this iteration, the total points awarded is equal to the total number of skill points in the tournament as in singles.
Iteration “B” allocates points directly to players. Players are first awarded points as they would be in a singles tournament with the players of the winning team occupying first and second position. The second place players occupying 3rd and 4th. Third place 5th and 6th and so on. Each player is then awarded the average of their and their teammate’s points.
NACO standings as applied to singles tournaments only.
NACO standings as applied to doubles tournaments only.
The time has come to open up competition between clubs and individuals across a broader geographical region. The NCA’s attempt at this noble goal has major deficiencies. The largest being that it attempts to absorb indirect competition into a system designed for direct competition. Grafting three, linear, arbitrary point allotment scales onto an existing one only exacerbates the issue. Linear, arbitrary point scales work perfectly well where the same core group of players can compete directly on a consistent basis as is the case with the NCA and UK tours. It makes no difference whether the winner gets 100 points, 50, or 500 as the weight of the effort to achieve the result will remain consistent as the competition will remain essentially consistent over the course of the season. The players competing in the Elmira tournament are the same ones you will find competing in London, Turtle Island, and the WCC. Hence, they are worth the same number of points. Anyone joining the tour will have to complete directly against those same players. Once you start to incorporate tournaments that don’t include that consistent core group of players the system falls apart. The linear, arbitrary point allotment scale becomes incoherent and impractical when attempting to weigh the results of different players playing different competition. This is why it isn’t done this way in any other sport. AHL teams do not get points in the NHL. Japanese baseball teams do not appear in the standings of MLB. Golfers playing on the Asian and European tours do not appear in the standings of the PGA and so on.
Thankfully for crokinole, the problem of how to compete indirectly has already been solved and we don’t need to reinvent the wheel. The solution is a weighted point allotment scale which awards points for results as a function of the strength of competition faced. The way it works is that each player’s skill is objectively quantified into a number, the skill numbers of those participating in a tournament are then summed to produce a pool of points. Those points are then allotted to the field. In this manner a player would receive more points for a given result if they played in a tournament with strong competition and a large point pool than they would have if they participated in one with weaker competition. The NCA attempts to head in this direction by tiering tournaments. Unfortunately, a tournament’s tier is not necessarily reflective of the participants’ skill level. The question then becomes “How do we quantify skill”?
There is no obvious statistic or metric to measure this by with respect to crokinole. The most practical way to do this is by laying out the strata of crokinole achievements and categorizing players based on their accomplishments within those strata. Being that the NCA is recognized as having the highest concentration of skill, we will use succuss in the NCA as the standard for measuring a player’s skill and the basis upon which they will be awarded their initial tier. In this way, instead of tiering tournaments, we will be tiering players. I’ve identified 10 different levels of accomplishment in competitive crokinole. Players will be placed in the tier that corresponds to their highest level of achievement within the past 24 calendar months, or 5 years for WCC winners. The tiers will be designated as follows:
Tier S: Players who have won the World Crokinole Championship (singles) within the previous 5 years.
Tier A: Players who have won a NCA tournament or have beaten 2 such players, head-to-head, within the last two years.
Tier B: Players who have finished amongst the top 25% of competitors in a NCA tournament or have beaten 2 such players, head-to-head, within the last 2 years.
Tier C: Players who have finished amongst the top 50% of competitors in a NCA tournament or the have beaten 2 such players, head-to-head, within the last 2 years.
Tier D: Players who have finished amongst the top 75% of competitors in a NCA tournament or have beaten 2 such players, head-to-head, within the last 2 years.
Tier E: Players who have won a Non-NCA tournament or have beaten 2 such players within the last 2 years.
Tier F: Players who have finished amongst the top 25% of competitors in a Non-NCA tournament or have beaten 2 such players, head-to-head, within the last 2 years.
Tier G: Players who have finished amongst the top 50% of competitors in a Non-NCA tournament or have beaten 2 such players, head-to-head, within the last 2 years or players who have finished amongst the bottom 25% in a NCA tournament.
Tier H: Players who have finished amongst the top 75% of competitors in a Non-NCA tournament or have beaten 2 such players, head-to-head, within the last 2 years.
Tier I: Players who finished amongst the bottom 25% of players in a Non-NCA tournament/New Players.
*NOTES:
- In light of NCA restructuring, the term “NCA tournament” shall henceforth mean the competitive division of a Tier I NCA tournament held within the traditional geographical boundaries of the present day NCA.
- The term “Non-NCA tournament” shall henceforth mean any qualifying tournament that does not meet the definition of a “NCA tournament” as defined above. This would include the recreational division of a NCA tournament.
- The skill level of the bottom 25% of a given tournament is difficult to quantify by this method. The only objective statement that can be made is that players that fall into this category are lower in skill that those in the top 75%. There is no way to objectively state how much lower so for the purpose of this scale those players whose best result was to finish in the bottom 25% of an NCA tournament shall be placed in Tier G.
Each club will be responsible for initially tiering its own players based on the results of its previous singles tournaments. In the cases where a club has a seasoned player or players whose skill level is known but hasn’t as of yet competed in a singles tournament to establish their tier, those players may have their initial tier designated by their club president to correspond with their known skill level not to exceed tier F. The notation “President’s Designation” or “Pres” will be used int the achievement columb.
- A Player’s tier will be based on the highest achievement they have achieved within the previous 24 calander months (with the exception of tier S which is with in the previous 72 months). If a player has no record prior to those 24 calender months then their tier shall remain the same.
- “Head-to-head” is defined as an elimination match that takes place in a qualifying tournament that is played to a specific number of points. This does not include matches that take place within the confines of a round-robin pool.
Each participating club shall record their players’ names, highest tier achieved, the latest tournament in which they achieved that tier, and the year and month of achievement.
The system functions as such. Each player in a tournament contributes “skill points” to that tournament; The number of which is determine by a player’s given tier. The total number of skill points in a tournament will be referred to as a tournament’s “field rating“. The tournament’s field rating is equivalent to the total number of “tour points” that will be distributed to the participants at the conclusion of the tournament. The skill point scale is as follows:
Tier S: 100pts
Tier A: 70pts
Tier B: 45pts
Tier C: 25pts
Tier D: 15pts
Tier E: 10pts
Tier F: 7pts
Tier G: 4 pts
Tier H: 2pts
Tier I: 1pt
A hypothetical tournament of 12 players would look like this:
1 Player Tier C (25pts)
2 Player Tier D (15pts)
1 Player Tier E (10pts)
1 Player Tier F (7pts)
1 Player Tier H (2pts)
6 Players Tier I (1pt)
For this example, this tournament would have a field rating of 80pts. Tour points shall be distributed in the following manner. The winner shall receive points equal to 10% of the tournament’s field rating. Second place shall receive 7%, third 5%. The remaining tour points will be distributed to the remaining players on a curve so that the total number of points awarded is equal to the tournaments field rating. The curve for each tournament will be plotted for a fixed 100 hypothetical participants regardless of the tournaments actual size.
The modifier shall be adjusted to the 4th decimal so that the sum of the points allotted is as close to the field rating as possible but not less than the field rating. Each player’s score shall be recorded to the 4th decimal without rounding. A player’s total tour points will be calculated identically to the method used in the NCA with a player’s top 5 scores contributing to their ranking.
Who can participate?
Golf’s system is based on some level of inter-tour play. The same is true for this system. To fully participate a club must have a player that has participated directly in a NCA tournament or a player that has completed against such players as to provide an alternative way to objectively establish a tier. If not, then that club’s best players will be perpetually stuck at tiers E and F. In this way it encourages players to participate in the NCA directly (a de facto PGA tour) or in Non-NCA tournaments with players who have earned higher tiers. This means pretty much all the North American clubs, whose members have the reasonable ability to travel to Ontario at some point, should be included in this system. However, a club like Footscray in Australia would be difficult to integrate as, being on the opposite side of the world, don’t get to play against players connected to the NCA. On the other hand, the UK tour which has NCA veteran Brian Cook as a member could easily be brought into the fold as Mr. Cook provides a means to objectively measure the skill of players in that region. Brian finished 3rd in his last NCA event which puts him at tier B. A player that beats him should be placed at the same tier if not tier A. With respect to the UK specifically, I would entrust Brian Cook with the initial tiering of players in that tour as he possesses the acumen to determine where a player would finish in the NCA. For this first season, 2024-2025, Participating tours/tournaments will be limited to those within the Continental US, Canada, and the UK.
Qualifying Tournaments:
To coincide with the NCA, the 2024-25 season will begin and end with the WCC. Subsequent seasons will begin the day after the WCC and end on the day of the following year’s WCC.
To establish an initial tier or tier change, or receive tour points, a tournament must be of a singles format with a minimum of 12 players and otherwise be approvable for NCA Tier 3 status. Actual tier 3 sanctioning not required. It must consist of a “second round” and be conducted in such a way that allows for the ranking of participants from 1st to last.
Doubles tournaments will count for tour points only. No tier change will be established form the results of a doubles tournament. It must have a minimum field of 12 teams. A doubles tournament’s field rating will be the sum of all participants’ skill points. Tour points will be initially allotted to each team. Those tour points will then be divided equally amongst a team’s individual players.
Non-Traditional Tournaments:
Convention tournaments like PAX use open round-robins and are designed to expeditiously produce a winner from a large field of players. As a result, they are good at identifying the few best players but aren’t designed to accurately rank players outside of the top echelon of competitors as they often don’t have a second round to further sort perliminary results. Often at convention tournaments records are not kept outside who won. As a result, tour points cannot be fairly distributed at these tournaments. However, a tier may be established at tiers F or E respectively, if a player reaches the semi-final round or wins a convention tournament or beats two players of a higher tier along the way.
The World Crokinole Championship also use open round-robins. However, unlike convention tournaments it keeps good records making fair point distribution somewhat possible. It is also, the only NCA tournament many non-NCA players will likely attend. Its format is less than ideal for ranking players outside of the top 16 as it uses open round-robins and lacks a second round for all participants, players that regularly participate in the NCA tour, that is having participated in two or more NCA tournaments (not including the WCC) within the past 2 seasons, may NOT establish a tier based on their results in the WCC with the exception of a victory (Tier S) or a top 16 finish (Tier B). Players that have participated in less than 2 NCA tournaments within the past 2 seasons may establish a tier at the WCC. With the new WCC format expanding the second round to 32 players, those players who make it into the round of 32 may establish a tier at the WCC.
How to Participate:
I, Josh Molloy, intend to do the all the heavy lifting (aka math) on this. To participate please email me the results of your tournament, listing players from 1st to last, along with the tiers of your participants (if you know them) as they were BEFORE the tournament. I’ll do the math, post the scores, and send you back an updated post tournament tier list. Please email me at extrapintcrokinoletexas@gmail.com.
And so it Begins…
I’ll tier NCA players based on the results of the last 2 NCA seasons per their website. No effort will be required on their part short of posting their results to the NCA website.
The first tournament run will be the WCC on June 1 2024 so someone please post results as they become available.
Point allotments and standings will be posted to this site as they become available.